Supernatural - script sides for episode 4x04

[agt_spooky]

I got a chance to read the script sides for Episode 4 this morning.




Ok, the episode is called In the Beginning and it's the one with teenage John and Mary. Now when I first heard that we were going to have a "time travel" episode I thought for sure that they really meant "flashback".

Boy, was I ever wrong.

I truly cannot BELIEVE that we're doing an actual time traveling episode! This is NOT The X-Files! It's NOT Quantum Leap! This show is NOT science fiction! It's always been billed as a HORROR show! What the hell is Eric thinking??

This is UNBELIEVABLY stupid.

The only thing, and I mean the only thing that could salvage this is that the Trickster is somehow behind this and created this...universe that Sam and Dean find themselves in. That none of it is real and he's screwing with them yet again.

Because really, how are Sam and Dean going to time travel for real?? If someone's got a theory that doesn't involve aliens and/or a time machine, lay them on me, because I really am curious as to how you guys think this is going to happen. Because right now, this is serious Jump the Shark territory for me.

And what's with not calling Sam and Dean by their real names in the script pages any more? I mean, it's more than obvious who's who. This time it's "Rick" and "Jeff".

By the script pages, I'm not sure what the plot of this is going to be, besides John wanting to propose to Mary, but Mary's father being totally against it, and Sam trying to warn Mary to not get out of bed on November 2nd, 1983. I think we all know how that turned out.

Oh, we do find out where Sam got his name from - Samuel is the name of Mary's father. Who is being played by MITCH PILEGGI! Woot! That's about the only thing I'm excited about. :-) Been an XF fan since Day One (hence my agt_spooky nickname) so I can't wait to see Mitch on my favorite show. :-)

Ok, I'm done rambling. I'm interested to hear what you guys think of this!

Comments

[agt-spooky.livejournal.com]

I certainly hope you're right! I honestly don't know of any myths about portals like that, so that hadn't occurred to me. Perhaps that's what Eric is going to do and this won't suck like I'm fearing it's going to. :-)

[je-suis.livejournal.com]

There are spots too, where time is supposed to overlap. Like you could be standing on a battlefield where a battle took place 500 years ago and if the conditions are right, you could see the battle raging around you. *shrugs* It's not as common as like, vampire myths, but it's a neat way to introduce us to the elusive relatives of Sam and Dean, lol. I've been wondering if all their entire family died too, because no one ever seemed to come looking for them after Mary died.

[agt-spooky.livejournal.com]

Huh. Neat! :-) Thanks for the info. Now if only something cool like that had happened to me during my childhood when my father drug me to every single Civil War battlefield to look at nothing but grass. *g*

I've been wondering if all their entire family died too, because no one ever seemed to come looking for them after Mary died

Funny you mention their family, as before I found out this was time traveling, I thought it might be a flashback/story told to them from one of their relatives POV - the only person I could think of was the uncle they mentioned at the beginning of Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things. Other than him, we've never heard of any other family members.

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

It seems to me those are more fantasy based modern fiction than anyone actually thinking you are going to transported in time.

I've heard of legends about being able to see things going on - like you said, seeing a battle but that's considered a haunting and not that you are actually being transported back in time. Or there are reappearing towns(like Brigadoon:) but again, no one is actually being transported in time, it's just something that is invisible and unreachable becomes visible and reachable for a short period of time.

The way this is shown in the sides isn't anything like a haunting, or even the invisible become visible, it's actual physical time travel to a place in the past and being to interact with and potentially change things.

I googled it and I pretty much found nothing that fits into the already established ethos of Supernatural. The closest was something like astral projection but even that just involved being able to watch, not interact.

To me this too far fetched, it's Sci Fi, it's not horror or folklore based. Let's put it this way, there are stories about people being abducted by actual aliens(as opposed to frat boys just being made to believe that by a pagan demi-god - and that fits too, because it's folklore:) but that wouldn't fit on Supernatural, because it's a sci fi theme and to me it's the same thing with real time travel.

[je-suis.livejournal.com]

Time slipping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_slip) is one of the theories I'm talking about, and there are books that discuss the subject as well. The wiki mentions also the concept of the vanishing hotel, which is a legend that crops up all over the place in lore. Both are time travel events and not what I would call "sci fi." No, it's not horror based, but it *is* based on the supernatural - which includes things other than horror, like angels. I'll type up some other things from one of my books on time travel that I've read when I get home from work, but I'm on my lunch break right now. But those are just a starting place - yes, there is info on the internet and it isn't sci fi.

Also, just to point out - Google knows a lot, but it doesn't know everything. According to it, I do not exist, as nothing comes up when I google my name. ;)

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

I know google doesn't know everything but Kripke has said on numerous occassions he makes the show to be "google worthy". Most of the stuff I see when I google this subject is Sci Fi based. Then again Kripke never keeps his promises anyway - "no recurring chicks this season" "Oh here's Kristy and her 5 episode arc". LOL