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agt_spooky ([personal profile] agt_spooky) wrote2010-03-22 08:33 pm

Supernatural - Beginning's End #5 & 6

For those of you following the new Supernatural comic series, here's info on the last two issues:

SUPERNATURAL: BEGINNING'S END #5 (OF 6)


Written by ANDREW DABB and DANIEL LOFLIN • Art by DIEGO OLMOS • Photo cover

The Winchesters get a major break in their hunt for John Dee, but how much closer are they really to the Yellow Eyed Demon? And can Sam and John put aside the growing rift between them to work as a team for one final mission? This senses-shattering penultimate issue is a shocker!

On Sale May 19, 2010

SUPERNATURAL: BEGINNING'S END #6 (OF 6)

 

Written by ANDREW DABB & DANIEL LOFLIN • Art by DIEGO OLMOS • Photo cover

The Winchester's Big Apple adventure comes to a close as they finally locate John Dee, and it leads to a shocking showdown between John and Sam that's only been hinted at on the hit TV series! Find out what tears the family apart and sends Sam cross-country to Stanford, turning his back on his family forever.

On Sale June 16, 2010

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I'm really, really curious as to how Dabb & Loflin handle the fight that makes Sam leave. It won't be canon, per se, but I'm interested in their take on it.

[identity profile] abrakadabrah.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
They wrote Yellow Fever and I believe the Children Are Our Future. So expect out of character, regressed Dean, adolescent humor like fart and masturbation jokes, Dean the coward, etc.

Their background is in comics, so expect comic book versions of Dean and Sam, regressed in ways that appeal to 14 year old boys.

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I absolutely hated Yellow Fever. To me, that's the worst episode EVER, of all five seasons. But Dabb and Loflin are hit and miss with me. I disliked the first episodes they did (Yellow Fever, After School Special and Jump the Shark), but then I liked Children and Sam, Interrupted.

But so far they're not writing Dean horribly in the first three issues of the comic. He's concerned about Sam and about Sam and John fighting, stuff like that. I haven't had an issue with characterization with either Sam or Dean. So I've got hope they'll do the final fight between Sam and John justice.

I had no idea that their backgrounds were in comics, though. Thanks for that info!

[identity profile] batina35.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Who is John Dee and why are the descriptions just about John and Sam? (Just asking b/c I have never heard of this comic book series before and I went back and read the descriptions for #s 1 - 4) I'm just going by what the descriptions say, is there also stuff that happens with Dean? I'm totally clueless as to what this comic book series is all about. I am curious as to how the John/Sam college fight goes. I wish we could see it on the show...

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
John Dee is someone that John Winchester thinks has information on what killed Mary. So they've been trying to find him in New York.

The main focus of the series is the rift between John and Sam that leads to Sam leaving for Stanford, which is why the descriptions tend to be about the two of them. But Dean is right there, too, hunting right alongside Sam and John.

I'll be honest and say the first two issues were just so-so, but this last issue that focused on Sam and Dean hunting together was much better.

I, too, wish we could've seen that final fight between Sam and John on the show.
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[identity profile] tracys-dream.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.
I will be reading #3 later today after reading your review.

[identity profile] ann-tara.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be honest and admit I didn't even consider picking up this series since it doesn't seem like Dean figures much, if at all, and I'd had enough of Sam and John screaming at each other at the end of season one. Over it.

If there are any good insights, I'll just pick them up from those of you who are reading the series.

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)

Even though the focus of the series is about what lead up to Sam leaving for Stanford, Dean is right there in every issue, hunting with John and Sam. And being concerned about Sam and about he and John fighting. I don't feel that Dean is getting the shaft.

As for Sam and John fighting, I don't mind so much because it's bittersweet. Both of them wanting something so much (to find Mary's killer, to have a normal life) that neither really ends up getting.

[identity profile] seesmooshrun.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the reviews, and i giggled at your earlier musings about nobody commenting on Dean carrying Sam's severed head around. But I gave up on the comics halfway through the second series. The art was horrendous, the stories miserably and unapologetically non-canon and now that Dabb & Loflin are writing them I cannot get interested. Although their free-and-easy approach to canon in the comics may explain how they feel justified in making up shit for the Show. I would love to read a real comic-book series based on the real Show but don't want to support these travesties. But I don't want to harsh anybody's mellow so if you are enjoying them then go for it. :-) I know, people will say "what's the diff between reading these and reading fanfic?" To which I say, fanfic doesn't pretend to be officially sanctioned as canon and nobody is going to confuse an unsupported fanfic with the show. But for these to be officially licensed just chaps my hide.
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[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
and i giggled at your earlier musings about nobody commenting on Dean carrying Sam's severed head around.

LOL! I thought for SURE that would get a reaction out of people!

But I gave up on the comics halfway through the second series. The art was horrendous, the stories miserably and unapologetically non-canon

I will totally agree that the art is terrible. With all the amazing comic artists out there, how did we get saddled with this guy? I did like the second series much more than the first. The first was just a mess, story-wise and canon-wise. I mean, they actually had to go back and fix the stuff about the Impala for the graphic novel version because of the uproar we gave over it.

and now that Dabb & Loflin are writing them I cannot get interested. Although their free-and-easy approach to canon in the comics may explain how they feel justified in making up shit for the Show.

Dabb and Loflin are hit and miss with me. I disliked the first episodes they did (Yellow Fever, After School Special and Jump the Shark), but then I liked I Believe the Children Are Our Future and Sam, Interrupted.

But I don't want to harsh anybody's mellow so if you are enjoying them then go for it.

I don't love them by any means. I think I keep buying them hoping they'll get better. And this last one was the first that really caught my attention because of Sam's decapitation! LOL!

I know, people will say "what's the diff between reading these and reading fanfic?"

OMG, huge! For one thing, about 90% of fanfic is better written. :-)

But for these to be officially licensed just chaps my hide.

That's like me with the absolute CRAP Supernatural books that DeCandido has written. He is so awful. He wouldn't know Sam and Dean if they walked right up to him and hit him on the head! There's no way he's ever seen a single episode of the show, and why on earth he's been allowed to write three novels is beyond me.

Thank god the next two books are by different authors!

P.S. - love your pissed off Becky icon! LOL!

[identity profile] seesmooshrun.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't love them by any means. I think I keep buying them hoping they'll get better.

Hee! Yeah, that's what I was doing, but I gave up awhile ago.

That's like me with the absolute CRAP Supernatural books that DeCandido has written. He is so awful

Word. But, see above for why I buy them; also, they at least pretend to be canon-ish, and I want to support the IDEA of Supernatural novels, and my husband is in the Tie-In Writer community and maybe they'll ask him to write one, since he loves the show and I'm not sure DCandido has ever even watched it.

P.S. - love your pissed off Becky icon! LOL!

Dang, I usually remember to credit those, and you might like this one, too. Both are by [livejournal.com profile] iwantpie

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Word. But, see above for why I buy them; also, they at least pretend to be canon-ish, and I want to support the IDEA of Supernatural novels,

Yeah, I know what you mean. That's why I bought the first two (loved Witches Canyon, hated Nevermore) but when DeCandido then wrote the next two, I just couldn't do it. And I hated that because I want SPN novels. Just not written by that idiot.

and my husband is in the Tie-In Writer community and maybe they'll ask him to write one, since he loves the show

No way! Has he written tie-in novels for other shows? That would be SO awesome if he landed SPN!

and I'm not sure DCandido has ever even watched it.

What kills me is, he writes a TON of different tv show tie-in books. I'm sorry, but you can't "know" that many characters and have a good feel for 10 different shows at once. He wrote one for Farscape that my friend started reading and tossed it down in disgust, saying there's no way he'd ever really watched and episode. How does this guy keep getting work??

Dang, I usually remember to credit those, and you might like this one, too.

LOL! Poor Chuck! Love it!

[identity profile] seesmooshrun.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No way! Has he written tie-in novels for other shows? That would be SO awesome if he landed SPN!

So far, only Transformers, Battletech, and Dragonlance, since his background is fantasy and RPGs, but I'm pushing him hard to send in a proposal for Supernatural that features being a fan and *knowing* the show and characters (and I'll make sure of that!) and that makes a point of not slaughtering entire towns to kill one or two spirits. >:-( We tried so hard to be involved in editing or playtesting the Supernatural RPG but at least that seems to have turned out okay. A year or two late, but well-done.

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-25 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
but I'm pushing him hard to send in a proposal for Supernatural that features being a fan and *knowing* the show and characters (and I'll make sure of that!) and that makes a point of not slaughtering entire towns to kill one or two spirits.

Keep pushing him! He's not nothing to lose by trying, and between the two of you I know he'd write an awesome book.

We tried so hard to be involved in editing or playtesting the Supernatural RPG but at least that seems to have turned out okay. A year or two late, but well-done.

Man, I didn't think that RPG would ever come out. I bought the book but haven't played yet. My friend Chris is currently playing with her husband and another couple and once she gets the hang of it we're going to get a group of local fans together to play. She's enjoying it. She actually brought the book with to the last Vancouver con for everyone to autograph and all the guys had a blast flipping through it, since none of them had seen it before. Especially AJ and Travis! Good lord those two geeks nearly peed their pants! LOL!

[identity profile] frozeneyes.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't even realized this run was out already. :p Will this series by made into a trade paperback as well? Do we know?

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know for sure, but the previous two series were put out as a trade, so I figure they'll do the same with Beginning's End. :-)