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agt_spooky ([personal profile] agt_spooky) wrote2008-05-15 07:30 am
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It all comes down to this




Well, folks, this is it. Season finale time.

I have NO doubt that tonight's episode will be a rollercoaster ride from beginning to end, drowning in angst all the way.

So Dean's time is up, his contract is coming due. What do YOU think will happen? Is he going to Hell? Will Sam pull off a last minute miracle? Or something else entirely?

Give me your speculations and we'll see soon enough if any of us are right!

[identity profile] agt-spooky.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey Deborah! Since I didn't get to read your post until after the finale aired, I thought it would be fun to go back and see how you did with your guesses. :-)

1. I don't believe Dean will go to hell.

Whoops! Got that one wrong in a big way! LOL!

2. My sweet Sammy will not go darkside

So far we have a winner with this one. Sammy is still sweet Sammy, but I think next season that's gonna change. :-(

3. Bobby is not going to die. He just can't.

I'm totally up in the air about this one, since we don't know what happened to Bobby after seeing him in the house across the street.

4. This just popped into my head - would Bobby make some kind of deal to save Dean?

With Bobby's whole "family don't end with blood" I could've absolutely seen him doing that.

5. In the previews it certainly looks like Dean dies - I hope that's just someone's nightmare. I know it's mine.

And we have another winner! Unfortunately, though, eh? [sigh] What a nightmare indeed!

We are going to be left with a h*ll of a cliffhanger, I just know it. I see another SenToo Pt.1 developing

You nailed that one! Another "dead" character that needs to be resurrected. Ack!

[identity profile] sen1995.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hey Deborah! Since I didn't get to read your post until after the finale aired, I thought it would be fun to go back and see how you did with your guesses. :-)

Well, this is certainly a way to see how good our guesses were! I hope I'm going to be able to explain what I think in a way that makes sense!

1. I don't believe Dean will go to hell.

Whoops! Got that one wrong in a big way! LOL!


See, I'm in the minority here but I do not believe Dean is in hell. First of all, while I have no idea what Hell looks like, it's been described on SPN as fire and heat, etc., etc., so I would have expected that last scene, if it was of hell, to at least have some red/orange/fiery colors in there somewhere (besides poor Dean's blood). But besides that, I think Lilith was interrupted before she was able to get Dean all the way to hell. Some people have theorized that he is in purgatory or some halfway place. But I think Dean has escaped into his mind. The way the scene was shot, going into his eye, going into his head, and also the scene reminded me of all of the sci-fi movies (like Fantastic Voyage) and science shows that attempt to describe how the brain works, with nerves and synapses (did I spell that right?) firing around them. I think that Dean is still alive but the pain and fear and shock (and aided by Lilith's plan to send him to hell being somehow foiled by Sam) caused his body to shut down. I will explain below what I hope is going to happen in 4.01!

2. My sweet Sammy will not go darkside

So far we have a winner with this one. Sammy is still sweet Sammy, but I think next season that's gonna change. :-(


I'm so happy about this - but he does have some sort of power, which I think came out much like he moved that chest in Nightmare, when Dean was about to die. If I am wrong and Dean is in fact dead and in hell, then I believe Sam will probably go darkside to save him. But what I hope will happen is that, with Dean alive and at his side, Sam will be able to use his power for good.

3. Bobby is not going to die. He just can't.

I'm totally up in the air about this one, since we don't know what happened to Bobby after seeing him in the house across the street.


I think he's still in the house across the street, or at least he still was when the ep ended. He couldn't get in - the house was surrounded by demons. My hope for Ep. 4.1 is that it will pick up where this one ended. When Lilith fled back to wherever she came from, I'm hoping her demon army left with her. Bobby will then be able to get into the house, where he is going to figure out that Dean is still alive, but catatonic, and he and Sam will have to reach him in some manner. That's what I hope, anyway!

5. In the previews it certainly looks like Dean dies - I hope that's just someone's nightmare. I know it's mine.

And we have another winner! Unfortunately, though, eh? [sigh] What a nightmare indeed!


Again, I really, really hope I was wrong with this one!

We are going to be left with a h*ll of a cliffhanger, I just know it. I see another SenToo Pt.1 developing

You nailed that one! Another "dead" character that needs to be resurrected. Ack!


Little did I know when I mentioned SenToo that Anna Galvin was going to be in the episode!

So anyway, that's what I think. Dean is not dead. "Damp not dead" isn't going to work this time though! I'll have to think of another saying to get through the summer!

So, am I completely off the wall?

[identity profile] greenwoman.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
< See, I'm in the minority here but I do not believe Dean is in hell.

< So, am I completely off the wall?

I don't think so. I think that Sam repelled Lilith too soon; sadly, the hell hounds had the chance to do their work, but I don't think she had the opportunity to "collect" Dean. It may have been that she didn't have enough time, or it may have been something that Sam did reflexively (as it seems his immunity to her power appeared).

Where Dean is exactly, I don't know.

But another thing I'm wondering about; Dean's poor ruined body. We have seen that people collected by hellhounds are torn apart, but after their death, their bodies are restored enough that they are diagnosed with outer-body-benign things like heart attacks.

So I'm wondering....

If Dean wasn't collected, will his body revert to wholeness?

Can Bobby provide the knowledge necessary to bring Dean back from where he is?

Will Sam be the agent who acts on that knowledge, or....

Will the Trickster show up and get involved ... my hope ... or....

I'm told Kripke has said that a new supernatural being that the boys haven't encountered before will show up in the fourth season; will it be involved in Dean's rescue?

Lots of questions.

But no, *I* agree with the minority who doesn't think that Dean's in hell ... and I think that he may not even be dead.

[identity profile] sen1995.livejournal.com 2008-05-21 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Lots of questions.

But no, *I* agree with the minority who doesn't think that Dean's in hell ... and I think that he may not even be dead.


I'm so happy that you agree with me! And I find your questions very interesting. I so want Sam to be the one who *brings Dean back*, and I would love to see Bobby provide the knowledge to help Dean. I really hope you are right about bodies being restored to some semblance of wholeness after hellhound attacks, and the Trickster maybe being involved would be interesting. I would also love the amulet to somehow figure into Dean's rescue. You could certainly see clearly that he was still wearing it wherever he is now!

Thanks again for your thoughts!