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agt_spooky) wrote2009-06-17 08:25 pm
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Supernatural Exclusive: Jensen Ackles on the Season Finale and What He Wants Next!
From the CW Source:
Supernatural Exclusive: Jensen Ackles on the Season Finale and What He Wants Next!
We ran into Supernatural's Jensen Ackles on the golf course (his preferred habitat!) and couldn't resist asking him about the finale... and what comes next! Check out what he has to say about the brothers reunited and what he wants us to see come Sept. 10:
I couldn't agree more with what you want for next season, Jensen! It's all about the brothers!
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Exactly! I mean, he was awesome last season, as painful as it was to watch, but Sam's "fallen" far enough. It's time for redemption now, Jared!
Plus, it's upsetting to a lot of Sam girls that Sam is so bad now a lot of the fandom has pretty much turned against him and they don't think Dean should forgive him. That's bad.
While I admit that I pretty much hated Sam for most of last season, I do not believe that if Sam apologizes, that Dean shouldn't forgive him. Of course he should! Sam was used, plain and simple, by Ruby. And Dean knows this and knows how much guilt Sam is carrying around now. It's time for both of them to start healing and get back to being brothers again.
But, on another note, do you think Jensen made Jared wear a funny argyle 'golf outfit' when he took him out on the links?
LOL! Jared probably picked out his own, and it's pink. :-)
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True, but the thing is that with Zachariah's comment that Sam might have to be 'nudged' the right way, it looks like he was being manipulated by the angels too. So it's not, in my opinion, like it was even necessarily possible for Sam to just listen to Dean, stop listening to Ruby, and everything would have been okay. The angels were playing the brothers against each other. In fact, I don't think ultimately that it was wrong for Sam to be using his mental powers to exorcise people rather than the knife. I think the angels just used that to be an issue between the two of them. Because first of all, it was Uriel who said it, and Uriel was on Lucifer's side. Secondly, Dean thought that if the angels said Sam shouldn't do it, it meants that God didn't want Sam doing it. But in fact "God has left the building", so I doubt that the almighty weighed in on the Sam mind thing before he left. Third, I know it can be interpreted different ways, but I believe that what Ruby said about it being Sam all along may have meant that he didn't need her demon blood to make him stronger, she just used it to addict him to her, but his powers would have gotten stronger on their own.
LOL! Jared probably picked out his own, and it's pink. :-)
YES!!!! And now I want to see them! *LOL*
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Which is really sad, to me anyway, because my view of angels has never been the way that Kripke is portraying them.
In fact, I don't think ultimately that it was wrong for Sam to be using his mental powers to exorcise people rather than the knife.
True. Sam did have a point, when he told Dean that this way he was saving the host.
Third, I know it can be interpreted different ways, but I believe that what Ruby said about it being Sam all along may have meant that he didn't need her demon blood to make him stronger, she just used it to addict him to her, but his powers would have gotten stronger on their own.
I don't think he ever needed her demon blood at all. Didn't she compare him to Dumbo? He didn't need the feather, he could fly all along. Same with Sam. She made him believe that it was the blood, but he had these abilities inside him all along. Which, now that he knows that, gives me hope that we won't have to go through another "detox" with Sam. I believe that his withdrawal reaction was all psychological, it was all in his head. He made himself believe he was a junkie needing a fix. Now he knows better. It was never the blood.
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I know, it bothers Casey too. And I've said this before, but I'l say it again, Kripke and co. are writers, entertainers, they are not theologians. In season 2 Kripke said they were'nt going to bring angels into the storyline. And he should have stuck with that. But he'd already made a big mistake, and that was bringing demons into it. Now Kripke is a very creative guy and he has great writers and they can all laugh at my little criticisms all the way to the bank, but he just did NOT think this through. Just like now he thinks he can keep God out of it, but keeping God out of it, the absence of God, still puts God right in the middle of it. He doesn't follow these things through to their natural end and see that he can't just put in a little bit of demons and never have to deal with the whole rest of that world.
Anyway, his portrayal of angels is just something to accept within the framework of the show, and pretty much to laugh at outside the framework of the show.
Which, now that he knows that, gives me hope that we won't have to go through another "detox" with Sam. I believe that his withdrawal reaction was all psychological, it was all in his head. He made himself believe he was a junkie needing a fix. Now he knows better. It was never the blood.
I disagree with this. I believe that demon blood is a drug and has a drug like effect and that the addiction Sam had/has is very real. If the blood the YED bled into the mouths of the babies gave them all powers, then demon blood is a substance which changes the human body. Now because Ruby was not a YED, I can buy thet her blood didn't make Sam's powers stronger.
What it DID do, was allow Sam to block the pain associated with increasing his powers, like he said in Metamorphosis "No headache". It also gave him the confidence that he could increase the powers. It was like giving him heroin or cocaine or crack, you get this decrease of pain and inflated sense of power.
So, when Sam didn't get the blood, then he WAS weaker and less able to use his powers, not because his powers were actually decreased, but because he was going through withdrawal.
So the detox was a very real, painful, physical process.
And I just hope to GOD that Kripke follows through with this because it makes sense logically, and I hate when he DOESN'T think something through and ends up making something he already established look like nonsense.
Also, it makes Sam look a little less like an idiot. Being an addict is not the most amazingly smart thing in the world, but he did become one when Dean was gone, in Hell, and Sam had all of the guilt, devastation, desperation and lonliness of that to deal with. And once he was addicted, he wasn't completely in control of his actions in as much as the number one thing an addict's body needs is the drug, and that means it becomes the number one priority of the addict's mind.
This is what makes sense to me, and I hope to God that this is how Kripke explains things because I hate when he throws something in and then doesn't tie it together in the way that he could, and ends up making certain things that he once established look like nonsense.
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I really need to remember this, because Kripke is definitely frustrating me with how bad and corrupt the angels seem to be (with the exception of Castiel and Anna).
If the blood the YED bled into the mouths of the babies gave them all powers, then demon blood is a substance which changes the human body
See, THIS is what I have a problem with. Demons are not corporeal beings. They're black smoke that then take control of a body. The demon ITSELF does not contain any blood, it's their host that does. So from the very beginning it made NO sense to me that bleeding into the mouth of the babies could give them powers. If the demon itself had a corporeal form (like a werewolf, for instance) and it bled into the baby's mouth, then I'd have no problem with this special powers stuff. But it's the HOST'S blood that's going into Sam's mouth. We're supposed to believe that the demon can...infuse the host's blood somehow? I just have never bought that.
But I do agree with your explanation that Sam's an addict. I just think that he's an addict in his own mind.
We'll have to see where Kripke goes with this, because like you, I don't want to see him drop the ball on this, no matter what the explanation is. But I don't see him devoting another episode to watching Sam detox, which is why I think that Sam's going to get over his addition pretty quickly.
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Oh, I SO agree with this! I can see them being able to keep a body that is mortally injured going, but to actually change the properties of the blood in some way so that it can 'infect' someone else by ingesting it? That doesn't make sense to me either. What about when the person is exorcised and lives? Are all of those changes gone? It seems like the blood being IN their body while they were possesed would be similar enough to their blood being ingested, to make changes in them as well, even after the demon leaves their body, right? See this is something that again, I think he just thought 'Cool, we'll do this" but didn't THINK IT THROUGH!
But again, my point it, he's already established that YED fed Sammy and the other children his blood, and it did give them powers, and that is how it is, so he has to continue with that in a logical manner. I feel like even if he has established something which is ilogical on it's face he STILL needs to keep within the parameters he's created. If demon blood gives babies powers, then demon blood changes people physically. But the effects can vary by the type of demon.
But I do agree with your explanation that Sam's an addict. I just think that he's an addict in his own mind.
I understand what you mean, but I'll agree to disagree on this. I see his detox as something real, mental but also physical, like the detox from alcohol or crack or any other substance. Especially the way his own powers went against him and started throwing him around the room, and the seizure he had.
I know that mental stress alone can give people heart attacks and things, but I have to admit it may be because I have an illness myself that some people consider to be 'all in my head' so I'm probably OVER sensitive to that as well. %P