I'm sorry for the incredibly late reply, my friend!
Freakily enough, I don't hate this.
LOL! That's okay. Just 'cause we're "badfans" doesn't mean we have to dislike everything. :-)
When I heard there was going to be an episode about Teen John and Mary, I thought, 'Oh great, 40 Sam and Deanless minutes
Yeah, I couldn't figure out how they were going to do this. I thought perhaps someone was going to be telling Sam and Dean a story about their parents.
Also I can totally see why they wouldn't want to use their real names and possibly affect future naming decisions positively or negatively.
Oh, no, that's not what I meant about their different names. In the script you know how the dialogue is written:
SAM Love you, big brother!
DEAN Love you, too, man!
But in the pages for this it's written:
RICK Love you, big brother!
JEFF Love you, too, man!
It's like that throughout the sides and it's totally obvious it's Sam and Dean, so why the aliases when no one's actually speaking to them, calling them Rick and Jeff?
But, this way, Sammy gets to meet Mommy (he's only seen her briefly as an apologetic fire spirit)
That's really going to be pretty emotional for him.
Plus - serious moral dilemma - maybe if John and Mary don't get together, Mary will live and John will have a nice happy life as a mechanic. Would Dean and Sam give their lives to save their parents?
I can totally see them having that conversation.
And if Sam was never born, then Jess would live. And if John isn't a hunter, then he'd never have the colt, which means there would be no reason for Caleb or Pastor Jim to die. Presumably all of Mary's friends and family would live.
Wow, heavy duty stuff when you lay it all out like that! But like you said, it'll be just like WIAWSNB, and I think Dean would make the same choice, to save all those people instead of just one, his mother, as painful as it would be.
Most important, who would own the Impala? What if it wasn't John? What if they didn't take care of it? What if they traded it in on a Volvo!
LOL! Oh, the horror of a Volvo! Anything but that!
Okay, so time travel, supernatural or science fiction? If the dead can cone back, couldn't the not-yet-born come forth?
Oooh, interesting way of putting that! But I still come down on the science fiction side for time travel. But perhaps Kripke will change my mind with this episode, depending on how he does it.
There is also a supernatural phenomenon where people in a place in the present, suddenly find themselves surrounded by the people and activities which tok place there in the past. One I remember really well is a building built on the site of a civil war battlefield hospital
Man, that sounds exactly like the plot of a Torchwood episode last season! Exactly!
I haven't read the sides, but maybe something in John's storage locker, especially if it was owned by John, could pull them into John's past. Or owned by Mary and into Mary's past, in which case it may have something to do with how she knew YED.
Oooh, now if it had something to do with Mary and the YED that would be great.
Anyway, even if the concept of time travel itself cannot shake it's science fictionyness, I still think it could be an enjoyable episode. Um, science fictionyness is so totally a term, by the way.
Hee! I'll put that in my dictionary. :-) I really do want this episode to come off better than it has on paper, because I'm very interested in John and Mary's story, and don't want it overshadowed by some time traveling machine.
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Freakily enough, I don't hate this.
LOL! That's okay. Just 'cause we're "badfans" doesn't mean we have to dislike everything. :-)
When I heard there was going to be an episode about Teen John and Mary, I thought, 'Oh great, 40 Sam and Deanless minutes
Yeah, I couldn't figure out how they were going to do this. I thought perhaps someone was going to be telling Sam and Dean a story about their parents.
Also I can totally see why they wouldn't want to use their real names and possibly affect future naming decisions positively or negatively.
Oh, no, that's not what I meant about their different names. In the script you know how the dialogue is written:
SAM
Love you, big brother!
DEAN
Love you, too, man!
But in the pages for this it's written:
RICK
Love you, big brother!
JEFF
Love you, too, man!
It's like that throughout the sides and it's totally obvious it's Sam and Dean, so why the aliases when no one's actually speaking to them, calling them Rick and Jeff?
But, this way, Sammy gets to meet Mommy (he's only seen her briefly as an apologetic fire spirit)
That's really going to be pretty emotional for him.
Plus - serious moral dilemma - maybe if John and Mary don't get together, Mary will live and John will have a nice happy life as a mechanic. Would Dean and Sam give their lives to save their parents?
I can totally see them having that conversation.
And if Sam was never born, then Jess would live. And if John isn't a hunter, then he'd never have the colt, which means there would be no reason for Caleb or Pastor Jim to die. Presumably all of Mary's friends and family would live.
Wow, heavy duty stuff when you lay it all out like that! But like you said, it'll be just like WIAWSNB, and I think Dean would make the same choice, to save all those people instead of just one, his mother, as painful as it would be.
Most important, who would own the Impala? What if it wasn't John? What if they didn't take care of it? What if they traded it in on a Volvo!
LOL! Oh, the horror of a Volvo! Anything but that!
Okay, so time travel, supernatural or science fiction? If the dead can cone back, couldn't the not-yet-born come forth?
Oooh, interesting way of putting that! But I still come down on the science fiction side for time travel. But perhaps Kripke will change my mind with this episode, depending on how he does it.
There is also a supernatural phenomenon where people in a place in the present, suddenly find themselves surrounded by the people and activities which tok place there in the past. One I remember really well is a building built on the site of a civil war battlefield hospital
Man, that sounds exactly like the plot of a Torchwood episode last season! Exactly!
I haven't read the sides, but maybe something in John's storage locker, especially if it was owned by John, could pull them into John's past. Or owned by Mary and into Mary's past, in which case it may have something to do with how she knew YED.
Oooh, now if it had something to do with Mary and the YED that would be great.
Anyway, even if the concept of time travel itself cannot shake it's science fictionyness, I still think it could be an enjoyable episode.
Um, science fictionyness is so totally a term, by the way.
Hee! I'll put that in my dictionary. :-) I really do want this episode to come off better than it has on paper, because I'm very interested in John and Mary's story, and don't want it overshadowed by some time traveling machine.
Fingers crossed it doesn't jump the shark!