Freakily enough, I don't hate this. When I heard there was going to be an episode about Teen John and Mary, I thought, 'Oh great, 40 Sam and Deanless minutes with a special guest appearance by our lead actors. On top of the fact that Mary and John won't be played by JDM and Samantha Smith, so this has major yawn potential for me.'
But, Sam and Dean meeting Teen Mom and Dad is far more interesting to me. Also I can totally see why they wouldn't want to use their real names and possibly affect future naming decisions positively or negatively. Of they are still named Sam and Dean when they get back to the present is it only because Mom and Dad met a 'Sam' and 'Dean' when they were teens? So doesn't that make a time loop? Or, they could get back to the present and be named Corey and Cody. Or Bo and Luke. Or Marion and John, Jr. NIGHTMARE!
But, this way, Sammy gets to meet Mommy (he's only seen her briefly as an apologetic fire spirit) and they both get to see John as who he would have been had he never become a hunter. I realize Dean may have some memories of him from age four and maybe a little before, but he can't really even say if they have been warped through time by who John became after Mary died.
Plus - serious moral dilemma - maybe if John and Mary don't get together, Mary will live and John will have a nice happy life as a mechanic. Would Dean and Sam give their lives to save their parents? (Obviously they don't, but maybe they discuss it.) And if Sam was never born, then Jess would live. And if John isn't a hunter, then he'd never have the colt, which means there would be no reason for Caleb or Pastor Jim to die. Presumably all of Mary's friends and family would live.
But, just like in WIAWSNB, what about all of the people John, Sam and Dean have saved? Would they die? What if YED ended up with Ava as his chosen, would there be a world-wide Demon war, and would the demons win? Would Sam's frind Zach be in jail for murder? Would his sister Rebecca be dead? Who would save Bobby from the dream potion nut? Most important, who would own the Impala? What if it wasn't John? What if they didn't take care of it? What if they traded it in on a Volvo!
Okay, so time travel, supernatural or science fiction? It is science fiction-y, but many supernatural events have involved someone having contact with the living after they died, you can't say that this is not at all similar to people having contact with the living before they've been born. If the dead can cone back, couldn't the not-yet-born come forth?
There is also a supernatural phenomenon where people in a place in the present, suddenly find themselves surrounded by the people and activities which tok place there in the past. One I remember really well is a building built on the site of a civil war battlefield hospital (it amy have been a hospital as well, I'm not sure). But two ladie who worked there for some reason took the elevator to the basement one night and when the doors opened, there was the civil war operating room. Soldiers crying and screaming, arms being sawed off, blood everywhere, people running around, and they said that one of the people (a doctor I think) looked up and seemed to actually see them and he gestured for them to come over and help. Of course they freaked and probably pushed a hole through the close door button and got the hell out of there! The similarity is that rather than one ghost being in the present, it was as if they were suddenly in the past. They did not travelk through space only through time. There is an idea that past event can have such a spiritual resonance that it continues to occupy a space regardless of time passing.
I haven't read the sides, but maybe something in John's storage locker, especially if it was owned by John, could pull them into John's past. Or owned by Mary and into Mary's past, in which case it may have something to do with how she knew YED.
Maybe since Sam and Dean have both been ressurrected they can tap into the abilities of spirits to transcend time?
Anyway, even if the concept of time travel itself cannot shake it's science fictionyness, I still think it could be an enjoyable episode.
Um, science fictionyness is so totally a term, by the way.
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But, Sam and Dean meeting Teen Mom and Dad is far more interesting to me. Also I can totally see why they wouldn't want to use their real names and possibly affect future naming decisions positively or negatively. Of they are still named Sam and Dean when they get back to the present is it only because Mom and Dad met a 'Sam' and 'Dean' when they were teens? So doesn't that make a time loop? Or, they could get back to the present and be named Corey and Cody. Or Bo and Luke. Or Marion and John, Jr. NIGHTMARE!
But, this way, Sammy gets to meet Mommy (he's only seen her briefly as an apologetic fire spirit) and they both get to see John as who he would have been had he never become a hunter. I realize Dean may have some memories of him from age four and maybe a little before, but he can't really even say if they have been warped through time by who John became after Mary died.
Plus - serious moral dilemma - maybe if John and Mary don't get together, Mary will live and John will have a nice happy life as a mechanic. Would Dean and Sam give their lives to save their parents? (Obviously they don't, but maybe they discuss it.) And if Sam was never born, then Jess would live. And if John isn't a hunter, then he'd never have the colt, which means there would be no reason for Caleb or Pastor Jim to die. Presumably all of Mary's friends and family would live.
But, just like in WIAWSNB, what about all of the people John, Sam and Dean have saved? Would they die? What if YED ended up with Ava as his chosen, would there be a world-wide Demon war, and would the demons win? Would Sam's frind Zach be in jail for murder? Would his sister Rebecca be dead? Who would save Bobby from the dream potion nut? Most important, who would own the Impala? What if it wasn't John? What if they didn't take care of it? What if they traded it in on a Volvo!
Okay, so time travel, supernatural or science fiction? It is science fiction-y, but many supernatural events have involved someone having contact with the living after they died, you can't say that this is not at all similar to people having contact with the living before they've been born. If the dead can cone back, couldn't the not-yet-born come forth?
There is also a supernatural phenomenon where people in a place in the present, suddenly find themselves surrounded by the people and activities which tok place there in the past. One I remember really well is a building built on the site of a civil war battlefield hospital (it amy have been a hospital as well, I'm not sure). But two ladie who worked there for some reason took the elevator to the basement one night and when the doors opened, there was the civil war operating room. Soldiers crying and screaming, arms being sawed off, blood everywhere, people running around, and they said that one of the people (a doctor I think) looked up and seemed to actually see them and he gestured for them to come over and help. Of course they freaked and probably pushed a hole through the close door button and got the hell out of there! The similarity is that rather than one ghost being in the present, it was as if they were suddenly in the past. They did not travelk through space only through time. There is an idea that past event can have such a spiritual resonance that it continues to occupy a space regardless of time passing.
I haven't read the sides, but maybe something in John's storage locker, especially if it was owned by John, could pull them into John's past. Or owned by Mary and into Mary's past, in which case it may have something to do with how she knew YED.
Maybe since Sam and Dean have both been ressurrected they can tap into the abilities of spirits to transcend time?
Anyway, even if the concept of time travel itself cannot shake it's science fictionyness, I still think it could be an enjoyable episode.
Um, science fictionyness is so totally a term, by the way.